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Could the social media manager is not a community manager should be?

Previously this was an interesting post about the difference in responsibilities between a social media manager and a community manager. Although the debate being somewhat dismissed as unnecessary concept definition and it is good to dwell on. Social media does have a strong understanding of deflation: it is appropriately and inappropriately used without actually really understand what it now means. This is not only bad for broader adoption of the discipline, it is again bad for the professionalization of the profession. Involving a job as community manager in the debate may help focus the discussion and bring the content back.

Not one person can generally all the tasks in the presence of a social media company is looking to take on. Also, the tasks are essentially different in many areas. Distinction between tasks that people perform and share work is therefore of great importance. Distinction between a social media manager (external / based) and community manager (internal focus) can thus sometimes be a logical choice. And while there is no question of a hierarchy between them. Both features play on an equal level. And maybe hear the community manager, because the direct contact they have with the target of a company, still just a treetje higher standing.

The community manager: responsibilities and metrics

Jeroen Loeffen hits in his one-time fee may be the nail on the head. The interpretation of social media companies seem increasingly to be an interpretation of the marketing department and / or corporate communications. Networks like Hyves are mostly moderate campaign deployed. Twitter is loaded with the RSS feed of the press releases page, Twitter is mostly service for distributing commercial messages. That while social media originating arose from a need for users to connect and collaborate. The community manager sees and wants to invest in building a lasting relationship with the community members. Albeit through the facilitation of their own platform or a group of enthusiasts on Hyves or Facebook. The origin is a community manager in this way might be better able to connect to a sustainable way with fans via Twitter and Hyves.

The social media manager would thus actually the skills of the community manager should have, but often focuses on marketing (communication) aspects of social media. The main reason probably lies in 'measurement' and 'accountability'. Managers have responsibilities and to show that they fulfilled those responsibilities they measure their performance. And marketing related services are simply easy to measure: visits, traffic, conversions are 10 to 15 years internet exceptional measure. Community manager for the absence of such clear and accepted metrics.

Net Promoter Score: KPI gives authority to the community manager?

Where the community manager yet, and the reason why social media manager will prevail, lacking a clear definition of 'accountability' and 'measurement'. It is for many companies themselves are often still unclear where the community manager (except for building the community) is responsible for and exactly how the results are made clear. Now the community manager often resort to quantitative metrics as members, visitors etc and individual best practices of community members, but it is unclear how these metrics are actually contributing to business objectives.

But if the purpose of the community manager is to create fan loyalty and community members to raise then maybe the Net Promoter Score metric to embrace the community manager. The Net Promoter Score is after all clear what percentage of your audience can be identified as promoters, passives and the part corresponding to the part corresponding to detractors. It would not be surprising if among community members, loyal fans, a high percentage of promoters can be found. In addition, the community manager not only owned a metric that could be shown that promoters can be identified by communities with the skills and tasks of the community manager's contribution lies in increasing NPS also another obvious.

Am very curious about your thoughts on this topic. A definition discussion is not what I'm after anyway, but think about further development and professionalization more natural.

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  • http://twitter.com/haroldkip Harold Chicken

    The definition discussion we had already carried out?

    Although I recognize the importance of the Net Promoter Score recognize, I think it's more a brand than an analysis tool for a community, stand as a tool and what I do not find interesting to know whether she would recommend to their friends. That is the measurement of assumptions ...

    I find it much more important to know how the internal and external involvement in a community. How community members interact with others and their content? Create their own articles and / or appreciate them and commenting on other articles? They use social bookmarks? Et cetera.

    These are actions that can be measured with "Engagement Index, a barometer for the health of a community. Based on the Engagement Index can be sent, because even though you're such a good "conversation manager, sooner or later you still want to produce what is 'doing'.

    I find it especially interesting to see which KPIs these developments will lead, for community managers will sooner or later have to show results! What do you think?

  • http://twitter.com/martinkloos Kloos

    Hey Harold,

    I mean really more measuring contribution of NPS community makes to a company / brand. NPS increases of a business by building an active community? NPS is higher among community members than among members?

    Do not completely agree with you with NPS measurement assumptions. Ben's book Reichfeld currently reading and he writes very clearly that research shows that loyalty and the resulting demand "would recommend" very closely matches what people actually do.

    Of reasoning here. Do you think the members of Autocad users within the community that you managed more or less with the product or not members? And they would see the community as an additional value to the AutoCAD product to recommend to other members? This would thus directly Efforts your business goals can help.

    I agree that engagement index is excellent for the health of your community to measure, but I still miss you mean the bridge to specific business objectives

  • http://twitter.com/haroldkip Harold Chicken

    Hi Martin,

    I'm going to book Reichfeld even once ordered it! For me, there is a substantial difference in 'would' and 'doing'. On the other hand there is something for the connection between loyalty and promotion to say.

    I do think that the members of AutoCADExchange.com a greater commitment to the product then feel AutoCAD users who are not members of our community. The top of 01/09/1990 is very enthusiastic and are experts in their vakgebie. And they want to show.

    Of them, because they are members of AutoCADExchange.com , AutoCAD more than usual I do not recommend, but it is interesting to investigate!

    And of course you are absolutely right that the Engagement Index does not connect to company goals. It's more like a meter of the health of your community and perhaps better suited for communities without a commercial purpose?

  • http://twitter.com/haroldkip Harold Chicken

    Jerome Pineau there yesterday has also written an interesting article about:

    http://whatwatch-jeromepineau.blogspot.com/2010 .. .

  • Evert Jan Koning

    Funny. I never think at all media as a starting point, a connected world is too obvious? The separation binding (community) and not binding (social media) in my opinion not very depth. What I think it is about and what in a connected world is becoming increasingly important is to create and develop a new marketing currency brands and add value transferable from trust to reach.
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